Chelmsford Historical Society
Outline of Interview 1975 Esther Woodward
11-born in Lowell, 1899
16-lived in Highlands
21-father was a butcher
25-knew little of Lowell Mills
30-attended Dover Street Primary, Morey Grammar and Lowell High
39-parents moved to Chelmsford after Esther's graduation from High School, around 1918-1919
66-moved to Chelmsford to "get out of the city"
73-father liked gargens
76-bought a home on Lowell Road, now Chelmsford Street
86-home displaced when Rte. 495 was built
91-worked during WWI at US Cartridge, Lowell in Master Mechanics Office
98-very busy during the war
104-US Cartridge was on Lawrence Street, the building is still there
111-married in 1921, only worked part time
117-streetcars was the form of transportation
126-Girl Scouting in Chelmsford, Sunday School at the Unitarian Church wanted to start a club to meet during the week
130-met at home on Chelmsford Street, group decided to be Girl Scouts
134-there was only one troop in Lowell, so the Chelmsford group contacted headquarters in Bostbn
138-process for starting a troop, dealt with Boston, had a big meeting,
took Girl Scout Oath,paid dues and became Girl Scouts
148-"it grew and grew and grew"
155-Mrs Woodward stayed in Scouting until 1949 (since 1919)
159-later became member of Lowell Council which didn't exist in 1919
167-Girl Scout Activities,met weekly t had full cooperation of entire Town
173-met in Unitarian Church, later McFarlin School
176-later there were more troops and headquarters was established in Lowell
181-troops were organized in Churches in Lowell
184-first troop in area was in First Congregational, Lowell
186-there was only one troop in Chelmsford for a long time, girls were from all over town, though there were not many from the North
189-transportation was a problem, there was no means of going back and forth to North, no direct line anyway, people had to travel through Lowell
194-there were girls from East, South and Center
204-troops had plays in Town Hall, food sales, sold Girl Scout candy and cookies
215-much less interest in selling cookies then
219-troop attended Church in group on Girl Stout Sunday
221-marched in Memorial Day Parade,and Fourth of July
222-decorated floats for Fourth, won many prizes
229-soon after marriage,had twin boys,in summer had a few scoutd over each day to earn Child Nurse Badge
234-attended annual rallies in Boston,a man in town with an open truck put benches along the sides for a ride to Boston, Everett Whitcomb
244-at one of the rallies saw Juliet Lowe, Lord and Lady Baden Powell
245-Juliet Lowe was a Southerner who founded Girl Scouts in the US
247-Baden-Powells, founded organization in England
253-Philosophy of Girl Scouting-character building,as well as learning how to do other things,cooking,craftwork,child care
259-learned from doing work required by badges
261-Lowell had a Drum Corps, some Chelmsford Girls belonged, they had to wear long black stockings; the entire Chelmsford troop, was required to wear long black stockings, this was not a popular directive
278-there were traditional hikes to Robins Hill, to Nabnasset
279-weekend camping trips to Camp in Pelham,N.H.
284-Mr Whitcomb transported girls in open truck with luggage
287-many went to camp for the entire summer
295-interest in scouting was always high
300-Girl Scouting grew quickly in Chelmsford becauseit was the thing to do", this is one of the reasons the troop was so active
303-there was tremendous cooperation from the Town, it helped out wherever possible, Girl Scouts were involved in community work
307-Red Cross Drives, Church functions
313-"There was just that feeling that the Girl Scouts were in Town and that they could be called on for help"
315-Girl Scouts of all denominations attended Church of own faith on G S Sunday
334-not much athletic activity in school s nor was much social activity offered," that ls why Girl Scouting was the thing to do"
339-normally 100% attendance at activities because there wasn't much else to draw their attention other places
341-girls learned a lot o mothers cooperated on home badges such as sewing and cooking
346-girls probably more anxious to learn domestic arts because their friends were doing it
378-Merit Badge requirements were stated in manual
383-troop was always in uniform

395-moved to South Chelmsford approximately 1965-66, really a "center" person (tone difficulty in tape_
408-South, an older part of town
420-Chelmsford has changed a lot,"The town has improved in many ways of course because it has grown, but I liked the small town where I knew everybody. I don't enjoy it as much as I used to because I don't know people in it as I did."
426-"When you live in a town, and feel that you know everyone in it, the town is home to you, and when you don't know one quarter of the people in it, why you just don't feel quite as much at home"
429-Chelmsford Center, 1920's, automobile place for selling and trading cars, Odd Fellows Hall, dancing and wrestling matches
440-Meat Markey and grocery store, when twins were born,owner of grocery gave Mrs. Woodward two large laundry baskets for beds
445-had twins in Lowell General Hospital stayed there for three weeks
458-there wasn't much recreation offered for youth
465-Church provided most activity
466-that's one reason scouting grew so fast
469-used to go to Adams Library regularly for books
477-popular place

20-Depression, knew no families who were terribly bad off
29-husband,Clarence worked in Lowell Institution for Savings, failure of Lowell banks caused some distress,friends constantly requested advice on financial activities
43-finally resorted to form answer "Whatever money I have in the Lowell Institution will stay there"
56-Church Alliance sometimes did food baskets for those in need
71-Poor Farm-knew little about it but was good friend of Simi Simard,once a superintendent;the last one before the Farm was closed by the state

End of interview
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